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Comment on Is a stream on Spotify (or any music service) really worth less than an iTunes sale? by Greg Formager

Greg Formager — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:08:58 +0000

Should we provide artists with mere money or direct goods, as would happen in a barter system? Are we all propogating a culture-wide collapse of creative investment through oblique payment schemes? Will the ancillary fallout of this massive and thoughtless consumption bring to bear a desolate landscape of wafer-thin products?

Comment on iTunes downloads versus Spotify streams, a comparison continued by david touve

david touve — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:22:39 +0000

Thanks for sharing all of this information. Its rather important that all of the angles to understand the value of music services can be shared and discussed.

Are you noticing rates in the EU/UK as greater than those in the US?

Comment on iTunes downloads versus Spotify streams, a comparison continued by digimuziek.nl (@digimuziek)

digimuziek.nl (@digimuziek) — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:44:13 +0000

David,

My response is a bit late, sorry but I missed your post.

I’m the one who is responsible for the screenshots of statements on both http://www.digimuziek.nl and http://www.spotidj.com. I may be able to solve a few pieces of the puzzle.

In my latest statement the payout per stream over september 2012 is € 0.0047 (about $ 0.0063) I was also puzzled by the different rates and I guess I am close to the explanation.

Spotify indeed operates by paying artists a percentage of revenue of a specific month. For each month the pay out is recalculated based upon the revenue. That explains for the different amounts each month.

Now how about the different amounts to different people?
My aggregator Zimbalam gets the same amount for every stream and if you check i.e. a statement from CDbaby you will see a variety of rates. How come? There seem to bee different agreements with individual aggregators. Customers of CDbaby get a different rate for every tier ( Free, Unlimited, Premium and people who have a free Premium account through their ISP or Telco).
So in this case the payout is calculated from the revenue of this specific tier in the given month. In some cases this even leads to a payment per stream of $0.0111.!!!

Should you want more info and or proof. I have published all the info I have been able to collect so far together with screen shots of the actual statements in my English blog http://www.spotidj.com/blog.

Comment on UK Radio versus Spotify: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams. by Le royalties delle radio italiane valgono un decimo di quelle britanniche | DanRaina.com

Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:05:35 +0000

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Comment on US Radio versus Music Services: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams by Spotify v. Radio – A Study in Dubious Conclusions | The Cynical Musician

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:49:24 +0000

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Comment on UK Radio versus Spotify: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams. by Spotify v. Radio – A Study in Dubious Conclusions | The Cynical Musician

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:48:03 +0000

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Comment on UK Radio versus Spotify: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams. by US Radio versus Music Services: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams « david touve

Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:28:29 +0000

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Comment on Is a stream on Spotify (or any music service) really worth less than an iTunes sale? by UK Radio versus Spotify: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams. « david touve

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:23:33 +0000

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Comment on iTunes downloads versus Spotify streams, a comparison continued by UK Radio versus Spotify: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams. « david touve

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:05:01 +0000

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Comment on Is a stream on Spotify (or any music service) really worth less than an iTunes sale? by UK Radio versus Spotify: A comparison of the value of spins versus streams. « david touve

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:04:58 +0000

[...] I have been working on some back-of-the-napkin (or serviette) estimates of the value of not only listens per listener to purchased tracks, but also spins, per listener, on major radio broadcasters. This week, I focused on radio [...]